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« on: February 22, 2009, 07:54:19 PM » |
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Hi All,
I got a ticket last night in Richmond.
The ticket was kinda expensive, here is the breakdown
$109 changing lane without signal
$109 changing lane on solid line
$169 not yield walker
three violation. Should i dispute the ticket? I never got a ticket before and what have been worrying me now is if the cop really shows up in the court, do I have to pay for the court fee if I lose?
Thank you very much
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Ice_GT
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« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2009, 08:14:32 PM » |
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Honestly, don't dispute the ticket if you're hoping the police officer won't show up
If you know you did all those things, pay the ticket....or dispute ticket and plead guilty asking for a reduction on the amount
If you plead not guilty, lie in court and end up losing the case, then yes you will have to pay the full amount
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M Speed
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« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2009, 08:26:22 PM » |
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The simple question is did you committed any of the offense?
[making an assumption]
From the list of offenses, it leads me to believe you were passing a stopped car yielding at a pedestrian cross?! You changed lane (solid line before crossing); since you did a quick change (didn't signal); then booked it pass the crossing (not yielding to pedestrian)...
[/making an assumption]
so if the above it true...own up and pay the ticket!
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« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2009, 09:45:57 PM » |
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Suggestion: On the court appearance date ask to talk to the prosecutor before court or during a break. Agree to plead guilty to the failure to yield to a pedestrian if they'll drop/withdraw the other two tickets. You've got nothing to lose and they all arise from the same incident/infraction. Just be thankful you didn't hit a pedestrian and apologize to the court for your infraction.
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« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2009, 09:58:49 PM » |
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Wow looks like im not the only one...seems like they're cracking down on little things . Personally if you feel that the charges don't fit, then dispute it. But if what m speed stated in his post actually happened, then I would just pay and within the 30 days to reduce the total amount.
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« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2009, 10:08:17 PM » |
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Thank you for the ideas.
What i am thinking now is to dispute the ticket. And plead guilty on the court to ask for a fine reduction or hope the cop won't show up. If I do that I won't need to pay for any court fee right?
Questions:
How long it takes for them to arrange the court date?
How many points does an N driver has?
THank you very much
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« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2009, 10:14:39 PM » |
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When is your earlier class 5 exam?
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« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 10:43:47 PM » |
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What is your motivation to dispute? If you did it, suck it up and Be A Man. Do Da Right Fing. Stop wasting my tax money.
If Donald's (M_Speed's) scenario is correct, what you did is NOT a little thing wrong. Pay up, learn from it and don't do it again. Doesn't sound like anyone is hurt, which is good.
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« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 10:45:03 PM » |
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Thank you for the ideas.
What i am thinking now is to dispute the ticket. And plead guilty on the court to ask for a fine reduction or hope the cop won't show up. If I do that I won't need to pay for any court fee right?
Questions:
How long it takes for them to arrange the court date?
How many points does an N driver has?
THank you very much
NO! You can pay the charges now (within the 30 days from the day the charges were issued) and you'll have a reduced total. I don't think there is a court fee at all. If anything pray that the system is backed up and it will fall through the cracks. Also pleading guilty means you have to pay fully. If you have any further questions, go to an ICBC branch. They'll usually give you all the options that you can take in regards to your ticket. |
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« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2009, 11:57:42 PM » |
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I agree with Heavenclosed - if you didn't do it, then fine dispute it. If you did do it (which by the sounds of your infractions, is a serious offense with the potential to hit someone) then don't waste the courts time and pay the fine. Learn from it and smarten up before your class 5
As for the points... they are being slowly phased out in the next couple years so if these types of things happen frequently to you, it will be fined by ICBC, on top of the ticket fine and also reflect on your insurance.
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« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2009, 08:48:47 AM » |
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Thank you for the ideas.
What i am thinking now is to dispute the ticket. And plead guilty on the court to ask for a fine reduction or hope the cop won't show up. If I do that I won't need to pay for any court fee right?
Questions:
How long it takes for them to arrange the court date?
How many points does an N driver has?
THank you very much
Court dates depend on how backed up they are, i've gotten dates that are for tickets 19 - 20 months ago |
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« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2009, 08:56:49 AM » |
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I agree with Heavenclosed
 HC didn't reply in this thread?! anyhow, for class 7. Fail to yeild to pedestrian $167 2pts Lane change solid line $109 2pts Change lane without signal $109 2pts so either you go to court or not, pleading gulity means suspension of 30 days + . oh and on top of all these, the register owner will get a nice bill of $300 for your 6pts on insurance renewal. |
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2009, 12:50:59 PM » |
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I agree with Heavenclosed
HC didn't reply in this thread?! anyhow, for class 7. Fail to yield to pedestrian $167 2pts Lane change solid line $109 2pts Change lane without signal $109 2pts so either you go to court or not, pleading gulity means suspension of 30 days + . oh and on top of all these, the register owner will get a nice bill of $300 for your 6pts on insurance renewal. See my post above, Talk to the prosecutor! |
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2009, 04:01:13 PM » |
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I agree with Heavenclosed
HC didn't reply in this thread?! anyhow, for class 7. Fail to yeild to pedestrian $167 2pts Lane change solid line $109 2pts Change lane without signal $109 2pts so either you go to court or not, pleading gulity means suspension of 30 days + . oh and on top of all these, the register owner will get a nice bill of $300 for your 6pts on insurance renewal. Don't forget the starting the class 7N over again. Any points and you are required to do the entire 2 years over again. If I were you, I'd try to get it so you still pay the same amount, but don't get any points for it. |
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2009, 05:36:38 PM » |
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I agree with Heavenclosed
HC didn't reply in this thread?! anyhow, for class 7. Fail to yeild to pedestrian $167 2pts Lane change solid line $109 2pts Change lane without signal $109 2pts so either you go to court or not, pleading gulity means suspension of 30 days + . oh and on top of all these, the register owner will get a nice bill of $300 for your 6pts on insurance renewal. Sorry Heatransfer  ... |
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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2009, 06:59:08 PM » |
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See my post above, Talk to the prosecutor!
the prosecutor IS the cop. If he/she justify to write you the violation tickets; he can justify to present to the JP. The OP has not explain why he got written up....if my guess was right, I doubt the cop would back off as this can lead to a very deadly consequence(s). |
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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2009, 09:54:53 PM » |
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The prosecutor is not the cop. He/she is the Crown witness. Surely in traffic court in Vancouver they have a prosecutor, even in B.C.! Someone other than the officer has to present the case for the Crown. The officer merely presents evidence, testifies and is open to cross examination by the accused or his/her counsel. I have appeared for a clients in Merrit, B.C. and even there, (now those matters are heard in Kamloops) there was a prosecutor. He needs to deal with the Crown not the officer.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2009, 09:56:45 PM » |
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I dispute a parking offence once in Richmond. There was the judge, the officer, and me. That's it.
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2009, 10:09:15 PM » |
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No prosecutor? Was it a trial or a first appearance? If it's for first appearance then there may not be a prosecutor in Court. They will just set a trial date based on the Court availability and that of the officer. The officer cannot be both witness and prosecutor. Check it out and advise. The prosecutor is usually around if they have other matters proceeding to trial on that day, after they deal with the first appearance docket.
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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2009, 10:19:15 PM » |
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I have no idea of the difference between a first appearance or a trial. The judge listened to both sides and made his decision. My "hearing" was done in 5 minutes  There was a bunch of other waiting in the back rows waiting to dispute their ticket. lolz |
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