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The successor to the F430. Official photos: http://www.ferrari.com/English....aspx     Specs These are the first official pictures and details of the Ferrari 458 Italia - the replacement for the Ferrari F430. The Ferrari 458 Italia draws inspiration from the Enzo and takes a new look influenced by the Mille Chili concept car.
Ferrari 458 Italia picture gallery
Ferrari has confirmed that the car, codenamed F142 and long rumoured to be named the F450, will be called the 458 Italia. The name derives from the powerplant: a 4.5-litre V8 which Ferrari claims has the highest specific output of any normally aspirated car engine.
It certainly has more in common with superbikes than cars; at 127bhp per litre, the specific output is greater than that of many turbocharged engines.
The high-revving 4498cc V8 has very light internal parts and tiny piston skirts, resulting in low rotation inertia and a 12.5:1 compression ratio. It puts out 562bhp at 9000rpm, 500rpm higher than the 430. That makes it the highest-revving Ferrari road car ever.
It means the 458 Italia will be ferociously fast, and Ferrari claims it will sprint to 62mph in under 3.4sec on its way to a top speed of “over 200mph”.
While advanced engine electronics and lightweight parts underpin the extra performance, this will be the first mid-engined application of Ferrari’s direct injection fuel system, which appeared first on the front-engined California. It also runs Ferrari’s now-traditional flat-plane crankshaft.
The 458’s engine will be one of the most flexible in Ferrari’s history, too, with 398lb ft of torque arriving at 6000rpm. While that sounds peaky, it’s only two-thirds of the way through the 458’s rev range, and over 80 per cent (318lb ft) is available from 3250rpm.
The direct fuel injection has also helped cut CO2 emissions, producing a claimed 320g/km of CO2, even though it is faster and produces significantly more power than the 483bhp F430 and the 508bhp 430 Scuderia.
Dual-clutch ’box
Ferrari learned a lot developing the seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox for the California and it has had to do even more development to fit the unit into the 458 Italia’s engine bay, under the curvaceous glasshouse.
The dual-clutch unit from the California has been modified with different ratios and now shifts even faster than the 430 Scuderia’s 0.06sec. The gearbox’s shift style is likely to be slightly more aggressive than the California’s.
The E-Diff differential and the F1-Trac skid control system have long been the flagship carryover technologies from Formula 1, but the 458 Italia takes them even further and adds another piece of F1-derived technology to the brakes.
Instead of using individual ECUs for the E-Diff and F1-Trac, the 458 Italia has one ECU to control both (as well as the ABS system), resulting in streamlined processing and communication. Ferrari claims a 32 per cent increase in acceleration over the F430 (itself no slouch) out of corners.
The brakes feature a new system called ‘prefill’. When the driver’s foot lifts off the throttle, the pistons in the calipers move the pads towards the discs; that helps to reduce the stopping distance from 62mph to just 32.5 metres.
Aluminium chassis
Ferrari has used its experience from designing the 430 Scuderia’s suspension to create the 458 Italia’s double wishbone front set-up and multi-link rear end, all bolted directly to the aluminium chassis. It’s been developed with the help of Michael Schumacher, who was spotted testing the car.
Ferrari has close ties to aluminium specialist Alcoa, which has built a factory near Modena to produce chassis for the firm. The 458 Italia’s frame uses ideas from both the 430 Scuderia and the Mille Chili concept car.
It uses more advanced bonding techniques than the 430 did, along with manufacturing processes more in line with the aero industry.
F1 wind tunnel
While the 458 was designed by Pininfarina, the shape has been developed using Ferrari’s F1 wind tunnel. The bases of the black intakes in the front bumper deform at speed, closing up the intakes and reducing drag. These intakes also provide downforce and feed air though the radiators ahead of the front wheels.
The car’s shape makes air curve around the cabin and run over the integrated tail spoiler. The flat undertray enhances the effects of the rear diffuser to create 140kg of downforce at 125mph.
Inside, the 458 Italia will take the opportunity created by the more luxurious California to become the sportiest V8 in the family. Ferrari says the steering wheel and dashboard are “new innovations in production cars”; expect a development of the firm’s wheel-mounted manettino switch.
The 458 will be built alongside the California in a new production facility at Maranello.
The car will be launched at the Frankfurt motor show next month and is expected to go on sale in the UK next spring. It will be more expensive than the F430, so expect prices to start at around £150,000. Kev
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« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2009, 09:34:46 AM » |
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So, what do you guys think?
The specs seem amazing.
I'm not sure where I stand on the styling yet. Some of it is wow and some of it looks a little over the top. I'm sure the profile will look stunning in person though. Yet, I still like the F430 in some strange way more.
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« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2009, 09:38:12 AM » |
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they've gone too lambo on this one. it looks too toyish. i saw a 430 downtown on the weekend and loved it. this is super nice, sont get me wrong, id totally drive it. it looks like they are getting away from their heritage.
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2009, 09:39:27 AM » |
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The photos look like a renderings. Sounds impressive though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2009, 09:41:27 AM » |
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Sorry, appears the link is down right now for the source.
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« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2009, 09:42:02 AM » |
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Almost reminiscent of a corvette with the lines, IMO.
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« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2009, 09:49:46 AM » |
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Looks interesting, not sure what to think about it.. the specs sound more amazing compared to the appearance of the car.
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« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2009, 10:28:01 AM » |
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new Ferrari's always take some time to get used to, I used to think the 430 looked weird when it first came out but it grew on me
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2009, 10:39:50 AM » |
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F430 is my love  this new 458 looks alright , i'm sure the real car will look stunning as well. It's passion and soul ! ( whatever that is )
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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2009, 11:08:09 AM » |
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looks good.
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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2009, 02:46:58 PM » |
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 in my book. The nose isn't bad and it will probably grow on me. I love the burly shoulders extending forward from the rear fenders, and the way that line blends with the character line of the door. Engine is fascinating. VTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAkkk!  I'd sure like to hear this thing at full throat.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2009, 03:11:12 PM » |
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2009, 03:33:55 PM » |
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Thanks Vic.
That tranny shifts unbelievably quickly.
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2009, 03:35:10 PM » |
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^faster than F430 it must be hella fast
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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2009, 06:58:30 PM » |
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I have to say (as an unabashed Tifosi...) that this is the most beautiful shape to come out of Maranello since the F40. All the lines seem just about perfect. The only thing that may take some getting used to are the headlights. I also like that the car is smaller & lighter - with more horsepower. Seems like a win/win to me.
Well, I'll put my order in if I win the $15 million on the 649 tomorrow.
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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2009, 07:41:22 PM » |
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buy one more and raffle it off on the forum please 
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« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2009, 11:17:45 PM » |
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Sure, no problem. Tickets will be $50,000 each...
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« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2009, 12:16:42 AM » |
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Yeah, I love it. Instantly makes the F430 look outdated IMO and I love the F430 to death!
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« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2009, 09:08:02 AM » |
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I have to say (as an unabashed Tifosi...) that this is the most beautiful shape to come out of Maranello since the F40. All the lines seem just about perfect. The only thing that may take some getting used to are the headlights. I also like that the car is smaller & lighter - with more horsepower. Seems like a win/win to me.
Well, I'll put my order in if I win the $15 million on the 649 tomorrow.
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For me, that title will always belong to the F355. What a stunning car. Kev
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« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2009, 11:18:44 PM » |
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Spec, front and back look amazing.....side profile, not so much. Too much lines IMO.
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